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The terms "mouthy, spouty" are words my family uses for someone who has a big mouth, knows it all, and is generally argumentative. Not surprisingly, I am often known as the mouthy, spouty one in my family. If you've happened upon this blog within the past few days, I bet you're not surprised. (I think I come by it honestly, though. Plus, I've been trained to argue - it's what I do in my job, after all).
Until a few short days ago, I think members of my family (um, usually just my dad) and maybe one or two people from twitter were the only ones who read my blog. That changed when I got angry Friday night after reading Daniel Negreanu's comment about Annie Duke.
Acting in haste on my anger and using my fairly anonymous blog - where I'm typically writing about my quest to become a better, more disciplined poker player - I vented my personal anger at what I felt were Daniel's inappropriate comments. I did that here and here. Mouthy, spouty that I am, I came home from dinner/drinks with family and made a poll about it, that I'm not sure I'm very proud of, which you can take here.
I got a few ugly things thrown my way, I think mainly because I find comparable the ugly offensiveness of the use of the "c" word toward a woman to the ugly offensiveness of the use of the "n" word toward anyone.
All I can say in response is that I come at this with my own filter and life experience. I find them both reprehensible. I find them both wrong. I'm not from Europe. I am a woman; I am not, however, a person of color. Does that negate my right to find them equally ugly? Does it make me wrong for making the comparison? Does it make me overly sensitive and a soon to be member of the *gasp* PC police? I don't think so, but some people do. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss the subject because I can certainly stand to learn a thing or two.
As of yet, I guess I'm still cogitating over what, if anything, I've learned. I can tell you that I didn't even start blogging here until a month or so ago. And the impetus to do so was the controversy that came about regarding the 2010 WSOP Ladies' Event (don't go assuming my position on the subject, just read about it here if you're so inclined). That should make it clear that I am passionate about my gender.
Annie Duke certainly doesn't need (much less want) me to side with her or fight her battles. She's perfectly capable of doing that on her own. I'm equally a fan of hers as I am of many poker players, male and female. That some of them have beef with each other - that's their thing, not mine. I took offense to what I read and I voiced my opinion about it. That's probably never going to change.
As an attorney, I defend companies where such behavior for non-public figures often costs them money and causes offenders to lose their job. It's my experience that juries and/or judges (fact finders) don't like it when they see, in print, words like "c***" or "n*****" or "b****", etc. When faced with such facts in evidence, it makes my job extremely difficult to defend a non-discriminatory position because juries are made up of people of all colors, all backgrounds, all filters and personal biases. And as you likely already know, there's no guarantee how 12 people on a jury are going to respond to such evidence - much less upwards of 100s of people on twitter.
Here, we're not in court and this ain't no capital offense. The poker community is, however, on center stage at the moment. As a poker player, this kind of publicity is not what I want certain members of Congress or the Senate considering before a vote on whether to make on-line poker legal.
I'll give you this - if I'd spent even half the time on my pokers as I did on this craziness this past weekend, maybe I'd have won some damn money at the tables. On that note, I'll say goodnight - my daughter's got her first day of school in the morning!
Um, I also love Brandi Carlile and have not taken time to say near enough about her, as she deserves!
With that - good luck at the tables, peeps.
Showing posts with label misogyny. Show all posts
Showing posts with label misogyny. Show all posts
Sunday, August 22, 2010
Mouthy, Spouty
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Saturday, August 21, 2010
PokerStars Responds
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I probably should've put more thought into writing a blog post about the Negreanu controversy. I've been told to lighten up...that my involvement is unbecoming and beneath me, which I think - but am not sure - is a polite way of saying "shut up because I don't care to hear about this anymore."
I stand by my statement - just as I don't think it's ok for anyone to call another person a "n*****," I don't think it's ok for anyone to call a woman a "c***" (and I find it wrong and demeaning to women that a radio personality, politician, public figure, or anyone really, can lose their job or be publicly excoriated for the use of a racial epithet but someone can use an equally reprehensible word toward a woman with no consequences).
Then again - I. Am. A. Woman. As a woman, I think it's wrong.
Do my feelings on the subject make me an emotionally unstable, overly sensitive individual? Does the fact that I chose to vocalize those feelings make me a strident, harpy bitch?
(for some idea how some people might answer those questions, see comments to this blog)
Whatever you may believe, it's my heartfelt belief that my feeling/opinion and my expression of that feeling/opinion merely makes me an individual with a personal standard. Period.
My all-time favorite poker players are Kathy Liebert, Maria Mayrinck, Kara Scott, Vanessa Selbst, Victoria Coren and Jena Delk so it's not like I'm trying to promote a Team Danny/Team Annie agenda, although I do wonder if there would be any money in t-shirts with such slogans...hmm...I digress.
No, I am not going to go play at Ultimate Bet. As much as I am a fan of Joe Sebock, I don't believe they ever adequately addressed the cheating scandal and so I may just end up going back to Bodog or FullTilt...we'll see.
So, go on witcha bad selves and have some fun today. It's Saturday. Be nice to each other and to all you men, please be especially kind to your wives, mothers, daughters and sisters. For as much as we get on your nerves, you love us even if you can't admit it (here's a secret - we love you, too).
PokerStars' response to my email is below. Again, if you feel as I do and/or want to express your opinion to PokerStars - and I hope you will - please just email them at support@pokerstars.com.
Pokerstars' response to my initial email:
From: PokerStars Support
To:
Subject: PokerStars Support - Daniel
Sent: Aug 21, 2010 12:49 AM
Good luck at the tables, peeps.
I probably should've put more thought into writing a blog post about the Negreanu controversy. I've been told to lighten up...that my involvement is unbecoming and beneath me, which I think - but am not sure - is a polite way of saying "shut up because I don't care to hear about this anymore."
I stand by my statement - just as I don't think it's ok for anyone to call another person a "n*****," I don't think it's ok for anyone to call a woman a "c***" (and I find it wrong and demeaning to women that a radio personality, politician, public figure, or anyone really, can lose their job or be publicly excoriated for the use of a racial epithet but someone can use an equally reprehensible word toward a woman with no consequences).
Then again - I. Am. A. Woman. As a woman, I think it's wrong.
Do my feelings on the subject make me an emotionally unstable, overly sensitive individual? Does the fact that I chose to vocalize those feelings make me a strident, harpy bitch?
(for some idea how some people might answer those questions, see comments to this blog)
Whatever you may believe, it's my heartfelt belief that my feeling/opinion and my expression of that feeling/opinion merely makes me an individual with a personal standard. Period.
My all-time favorite poker players are Kathy Liebert, Maria Mayrinck, Kara Scott, Vanessa Selbst, Victoria Coren and Jena Delk so it's not like I'm trying to promote a Team Danny/Team Annie agenda, although I do wonder if there would be any money in t-shirts with such slogans...hmm...I digress.
No, I am not going to go play at Ultimate Bet. As much as I am a fan of Joe Sebock, I don't believe they ever adequately addressed the cheating scandal and so I may just end up going back to Bodog or FullTilt...we'll see.
So, go on witcha bad selves and have some fun today. It's Saturday. Be nice to each other and to all you men, please be especially kind to your wives, mothers, daughters and sisters. For as much as we get on your nerves, you love us even if you can't admit it (here's a secret - we love you, too).
PokerStars' response to my email is below. Again, if you feel as I do and/or want to express your opinion to PokerStars - and I hope you will - please just email them at support@pokerstars.com.
Pokerstars' response to my initial email:
From: PokerStars Support
To:
Subject: PokerStars Support - Daniel
Sent: Aug 21, 2010 12:49 AM
And my response:Hello ________,
Thank you for your email.
We are glad to hear that you are enjoying the Women's Poker League and value
very much as one of our loyal female poker players.
Daniel and Annie are both passionate about poker, and both aren't afraid to
speak their mind. I think this is a fact people like and appreciate about
both players. When you have two people that are similar in that regard,
there's bound to be friction somewhere along the line.
Although Daniel Negreanu is a Team PokerStarsPro, he is an entity to himself
and as such will always be encouraged to express his views and speak his
mind as he would otherwise do so, PokerStars Pro or not.
I hope you will still enjoy watching both Daniel and Annie play as both are
fantastic poker players and an enrichment, on one way or another, for the
poker world.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions and
thank you for choosing PokerStars.
Regards,
Katja
PokerStars Support Team
And PokerStars' response:I get that and appreciate that he is an individual unto himself. But his comment re: Annie Duke, a woman, and calling her a "cunt" is exactly on par with calling an African American person a "n*****," it is completely and utterly unacceptable.
I appreciate your response and would likely be placated if PokerStars were to make public a statement like you provided me.
If that's not going to happen, please let me know because I will cash out and commence playing elsewhere.
Look forward to hearing from you.
To:
Cc:
Date: Saturday, August 21 2010 1:13 AM
Subject: PokerStars Support - Forwarded to Supervisor
That was 12 hours ago.Hello __________,
Thank you for your reply.
I have forwarded your email to a Support Supervisor for their review and
response. You will receive a reply as soon as possible.
Your patience is appreciated.
Regards,
Katja
PokerStars Support Team
Good luck at the tables, peeps.
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